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DeviousPENGUIN
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 Posted: Mar Sat 12, 2005 7:49 pm Post subject:
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Yeah but tyr's right what is the point of saving units then having to spend twice as much for them? That reduces their utility even if they are worth twice as much in combat terms. The AI will wipe out your leveled up units with multiple attacks in a turn then because it costs more to repair your leveled up units while the AI's units are cheaper to repair it will come back and destroy any heavily damaged units that were able to escape the previous turn, Bye bye "S" ranks hello AI capturing your cities.
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JVGFanatic
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Location: Portland (the westardly one)
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Posted: Mar Sat 12, 2005 11:05 pm Post subject:
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| SemperFi2382 wrote: |
...Not to mention that in the REAL world, better units cost more money to train and maintain. I'd say that adds realism for me.
Not to mention, that you wouldn't waste your units because they cost so much. |
Precisely the first things I thought about them. Truth be told I forgot about them most of the time. Much of the time I brought them out to just finish a level, near the end so to speak.
Then you wonder, would it cost that much more to send out seasoned troops than it does to build a new bunch of weaponry? Armor plating anyone?
If I had been given the opportunity to rename the units (the unit of course would have a default name but you could display either) then that would be a different story...also if it had a numerical scale of levels (1...?). Daisenryaku 1941 has both of those features and if you check your release dates...well...nevermind.
The question then becomes, Would you pay fifty bucks instead of twenty if Kemco did a Working Designs makeover (adding features like renaming units, and another button code for our tyrant)? More saves! (1941 has more saves...still limited though)
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JVGFanatic
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Location: Portland (the westardly one)
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Posted: Mar Sat 12, 2005 11:12 pm Post subject:
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Kemco, where is the *weather* cheat?
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Adoug
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Posted: Mar Sun 13, 2005 1:55 pm Post subject:
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JVG...hate to disappoint, but there is no weather cheat in my bag O tricks.. 
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SemperFi2382
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Location: Chicago Suburbs, IL USA
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Posted: Mar Sun 13, 2005 2:13 pm Post subject:
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| DeviousPENGUIN wrote: |
| Yeah but tyr's right what is the point of saving units then having to spend twice as much for them? That reduces their utility even if they are worth twice as much in combat terms. The AI will wipe out your leveled up units with multiple attacks in a turn then because it costs more to repair your leveled up units while the AI's units are cheaper to repair it will come back and destroy any heavily damaged units that were able to escape the previous turn, Bye bye "S" ranks hello AI capturing your cities. |
Don't use them on defense. 
Use them to mow down the enemy.
At least, for me they don't seem to die so fast. 
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DeviousPENGUIN
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Location: Pittsburgh PA
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Posted: Mar Mon 14, 2005 10:47 am Post subject:
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If I buy them right at the start and send them as the force to first contact the enemy they invariably run into the AI's entire force and are then overwhelmed. From now on they will just be used to mop-up as someone else posted, what a waste.
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JVGFanatic
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Posted: Mar Mon 14, 2005 1:59 pm Post subject:
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The only real cheat (well, there are two...) but the only worthwhile cheat I want now is the one that turns off fog of war.
An explanation as to whether it turns off AI's FoW as well would be nice.
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SemperFi2382
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Location: Chicago Suburbs, IL USA
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Posted: Mar Mon 14, 2005 2:13 pm Post subject:
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| DeviousPENGUIN wrote: |
| If I buy them right at the start and send them as the force to first contact the enemy they invariably run into the AI's entire force and are then overwhelmed. From now on they will just be used to mop-up as someone else posted, what a waste. |
Well, I found that the turning point where you start pushing them back is also a good point to bring in the high ranks.
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Iron Giant
Joined: 08 Mar 2005
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Posted: Mar Tue 15, 2005 6:52 am Post subject:
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so, I've tried to use these unlockables, but nothing happens. Do you type them at the mains screen where its flashing "press start" with the picture of the fighter on the screen?
also, this latest unlockable of additional ammo, before I unlock it, what does it do exactly? can I turn it on and off? does it just give the player more ammo than the AI gets?
gracimos.
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JVGFanatic
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Posted: Mar Tue 15, 2005 11:03 am Post subject:
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I've been entering them at the main menu, after I've pressed start.
You enter them in a deliberate manner, no fast presses, just take your time. Start with the X button, then the code, then the X button again.
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DoubleTap
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Location: Manhattan
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Posted: Mar Tue 15, 2005 3:18 pm Post subject:
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| SemperFi2382 wrote: |
| DeviousPENGUIN wrote: |
| If I buy them right at the start and send them as the force to first contact the enemy they invariably run into the AI's entire force and are then overwhelmed. From now on they will just be used to mop-up as someone else posted, what a waste. |
Well, I found that the turning point where you start pushing them back is also a good point to bring in the high ranks.
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Agreed. Also, some S level units are more useful than others. An S level tank is better than other tanks, but is still a front line unit that's vulnerable to being overrun if unsupported. An S level ATACMS, on the other hand can rain death down on the enemy and still be safe behind your front lines. S level air units can usually get out of trouble if neccessary, so they're harder to gang up on.
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Adoug
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Posted: Mar Tue 15, 2005 4:11 pm Post subject:
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New cheat is up my arm chair generals!
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SemperFi2382
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Location: Chicago Suburbs, IL USA
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Posted: Mar Tue 15, 2005 7:44 pm Post subject:
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| Adoug wrote: |
| New cheat is up my arm chair generals!
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All Recon units eh? Does that mean we can use all of them regardless of nation? Or does it unlock them all if we haven't yet.
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Iron Giant
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Posted: Mar Thu 17, 2005 6:22 am Post subject:
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So, looking for clarification prior to pulling the trigger:
What does the extra ammo and the All Recon cheats do? Can you turn them off?
How many of these unlockables are there??
Inquiring minds want to know! 
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JVGFanatic
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Location: Portland (the westardly one)
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Posted: Mar Fri 18, 2005 7:41 am Post subject:
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You can turn cheats off by restarting. As to the other questions, we could sure use ADoug here 
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