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indierockclimber
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 Posted: Apr Fri 29, 2005 8:31 pm Post subject: AC 130 Spooky
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why is this 3000? Am I missing something or is this a piece of garbage?
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DeviousPENGUIN
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Posted: Apr Fri 29, 2005 8:48 pm Post subject:
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DId you finish the mission where you play with them? It seemed effective enough in that. I still prefer attack choppers for blasting ground targets myself.
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SemperFi2382
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Posted: Apr Sat 30, 2005 10:29 am Post subject: Re: AC 130 Spooky
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| indierockclimber wrote: |
| why is this 3000? Am I missing something or is this a piece of garbage? |
Ahh, The AC-130U Spectre Gunship.
I think it got translated wrong, because there is no "Spooky" belonging to the AC-130s. But anyways...
I love the AC-130s over helos for 2 reasons. First, they carry a lot more ammo and firepower for raining death down on artillery and support units. (Though they can be used on other targets, just that's how I use them.) Second, they can move farther much faster than a helo, which is important if your front is far away or you need a rapid response to a new threat.
Personally, I love to use them (When not playing as a MEU) and have lost only 2 or 3 total out of 15 or so that I have used. There are about 2-3 S ranked that I have and I use them fairly early on if resources allow. Compared to the helos, they may not be as easily repaired/rearmed/replenished due to the fact that they need an airfield, but in the long run it balances out. True, you can equip you attack helos with Anti-Air weapons where the AC-130 cannot, but I don't usually throw my helos against air units unless it's a transport or capture capable helo. So, air cover is important regardless so that for me it isn't a factor because I keep fighter escorts around, as well as an AEW aircraft so I know if I need to pull my AC-130s back. As for ground based SAMs, well I laugh at them because the next attack from the AC-130s is on them and always with devestating results.
Long post I know, but just my 2 cents on a unit that I love both in the game and in real life. (If you've ever seen one in action, you would too.) 
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indierockclimber
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SemperFi2382
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Posted: Apr Sat 30, 2005 12:02 pm Post subject:
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Hmm, it may very well be the Spooky, but I know the same model The AC-130U as the Spectre too. Perhaps I am thinking of a nickname and thinking that it's the designation.
Anyhow, as for the hit %, the 2000 pounders will decimate just about anything regardless. The 2000 out of the Russian Backfire, Chinese Badgers and the USs B-1 and B-2 bombers are just plain lethal.
I have some great luck with the AC-130s and they improve significantly as they level. Even at rank E though, I am impressed by how hard they hit and their ability to turn the tide of a battle in certain scenarios. Maybe it's the targets I tend to pick (Like I said, I use them for artillery and light armor hunters) that is contributing to their success.
Another thing that I forgot that is great about the AC-130s is that they can easily clear mountain ranges when attack helos cannot. Not to mention that they can be refueled via a KC-135 Stratotanker for long range missions.
While some may not consider these the meat and potatoes of their assault force, I find the AC-130U "Spooky" to be a well rounded unit that is one of the more useful units at your disposal. 
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indierockclimber
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Posted: Apr Sat 30, 2005 2:49 pm Post subject:
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Hmm well I usually use a combination of A-10s, apaches, and 1 or 2 B1s as my air to ground assault units, but I will try out the spooky just based on your recommendations and see how it does 
Also, there is a Spectre and a Spooky. The spooky is the newer one, from what I can gather
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SemperFi2382
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Posted: Apr Sat 30, 2005 4:18 pm Post subject:
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| indierockclimber wrote: |
Hmm well I usually use a combination of A-10s, apaches, and 1 or 2 B1s as my air to ground assault units, but I will try out the spooky just based on your recommendations and see how it does
Also, there is a Spectre and a Spooky. The spooky is the newer one, from what I can gather
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Hmm, I'll have to look into that. I give you credit indie, it's not everyday someone knows something I don't. 
Looks like I have a research project for myself regarding the AC-130s.
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Posted: May Sun 01, 2005 12:09 am Post subject: "Spooky"
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The nickname "Spooky" was given to the first gunship of this type, the AC-47, which was the old WWII style transport plane like the one that paratroopers would jump from. The "Spooky" was used during the Vietnam war. It basically used the same armament, just not all the electronics as the AC-130 "Spectre".
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indierockclimber
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Posted: May Sun 01, 2005 8:35 am Post subject:
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Well the spooky is based on the chasis of the C-130 hercules transport.
AC-130U 'Spooky II'
The AC-130U, commonly referred to as "U-Boat", is the most complex aircraft weapons system in the world today. It has more than 609,000 lines of software code in its mission computers and avionics systems. The newest addition to the command fleet, it is the latest in a long line of heavily-armed, side-firing gunships and is named "Spooky II" in honor of the first gunship model, the AC-47D. All other AC-130s are referred to as "Spectre". The prototype AC-130U (#87-0128) made its first flight on 20 December 1990. The initial flight test period lasted through 21 December 1991 and consisted of 48 test flights, a total of 165 hours.
The "Spooky II" gunship program consists of 13 new Lockheed C-130H airframes modified by Boeing with improved armament, advanced sensors, a Hughes APG-180 fire control radar system, GPS, the ALQ-172 Electronic Countermeasure System, an ALR-56M radar warning receiver, an APR-46A panoramic receiver, and an AAR-44 infrared warning receiver integrated with a series of ALE-40 chaff & flare dispensers. The modifications allow the aircraft to perform the full range of special operations and conventional gunship missions, at night and in adverse weather. These aircraft also have the capability to loiter for long periods over targets, while providing precision fire support.
A multi-mode strike radar provides extreme long-range target detection and identification. It is able to track 40mm and 105mm projectiles and return pinpoint impact locations to the crew for subsequent adjustment to the target. The fire control system offers a Dual Target Attack capability, whereby two targets up to one kilometer apart can be simultaneously engaged by two different sensors, using two different guns. No other air-ground attack platform in the world offers this capability.
Targeting equipment installed in the gunship includes an advanced All-Light Level Television (ALLTV) system with a laser illuminator, laser target designator, laser range finder, infrared detection set, and night vision goggles for the pilots. Navigational devices include the inertial navigation system (INS) and global positioning system (GPS).
The side-firing weapons array consists of one 25mm GAU-12 Gatling gun (firing 1,800 rounds per minute), one 40mm L60 Bofors cannon (with a selectable firing rate of single shot or 120 rounds per minute) and one 105mm M-102 Howitzer cannon (firing 6 to 10 rounds per minute). Defensive systems include a countermeasures dispensing system that releases chaff and flares to counter radar infrared-guided antiaircraft missiles. Also, infrared heat shields mounted underneath the engines disperse and hide engine heat sources from infrared-guided antiaircraft missiles.
The AC-130U is pressurized, enabling it to fly at higher altitudes, saving fuel and time, and allowing for greater range than the AC-130H. An inflight refueling capability is also provided.
All AC-130Us are currently assigned to the Air Force Special Operations Command (AFSOC) and serve with the 4th SOS, part of the 16th SOW, at Hurlburt Field, Florida.
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SemperFi2382
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Posted: May Sun 01, 2005 9:40 am Post subject:
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Interesting read. So, technically the game should have the "Spooky" as "Spooky II". Heh, so I was thinking of the "Spectre", but it just wasn't the best model out there.
Well, now that info has been posted, you can see why the AC-130s are one of my favorite aircraft. Great find indie, Ooh Rah! Carry on.
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DeviousPENGUIN
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Posted: May Mon 02, 2005 12:25 am Post subject:
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indie I applaude you for typing all that. Someone should buy you a beer.
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indierockclimber
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Posted: May Mon 02, 2005 5:29 am Post subject:
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copy and paste. But you can still buy me a beer if you'd like
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SemperFi2382
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Posted: May Mon 02, 2005 5:48 am Post subject:
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| indierockclimber wrote: |
| copy and paste. But you can still buy me a beer if you'd like
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Lol, indie. Still, you took the time to find the info in the first place. 
NOTE: I think we need a beer smiley.
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indierockclimber
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Posted: May Mon 02, 2005 8:55 am Post subject:
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I hope the spooky is worth the cost, cause I really love the way they look. Plus, after reading that description, they sound so badass. Haven't tried one yet though.
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DoubleTap
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Posted: May Mon 02, 2005 9:21 am Post subject:
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Now I wish you could use units from different countries on the same side... you could use some Special Forces(as Green Berets) with some air support (Apaches and Spooky 2s) along with some, say Chinese units against a Chinese opfor, to simulate Army spec ops guys going in and acting as a cadre for a rebel army. Still, this game just keeps getting better and better.
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