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Brashin



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PostPosted: Jul Fri 15, 2005 8:15 am    Post subject: Tank Destroyers??? Reply with quote

I like using the Japanese tank destoryers with the TOW rockets on the Humvee's chasis. Range of 3 and do good damage and are cheap

The US Tank destroyers all have a range of 1 I believe they use TOW as well but range of 1 and very weak. No sense in using a tank destroyer with a range of 1 as the tanks they attack can fire back and obliterate them.

Do they ever get a range 3 Tank Destoryer at all???
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PostPosted: Jul Fri 15, 2005 2:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Tank Destroyers??? Reply with quote

Brashin wrote:
I like using the Japanese tank destoryers with the TOW rockets on the Humvee's chasis. Range of 3 and do good damage and are cheap

The US Tank destroyers all have a range of 1 I believe they use TOW as well but range of 1 and very weak. No sense in using a tank destroyer with a range of 1 as the tanks they attack can fire back and obliterate them.

Do they ever get a range 3 Tank Destoryer at all???


Unfortunately no.

However, with the wide array of powerful artillery, a large selection of attack aircraft/helos and good main battle tanks, The US doesn't suffer from this detriment as some of the other nations do.

EDIT: There are some discrepancies as to the range of the TOW Missles. I think the Japanese version is a bit too long ranged. It compares to the ranges of the Maverick Missles and out ranges the Hellfires which isn't exactly right govering how TOW Missles actually work.
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PostPosted: Jul Sat 16, 2005 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That range 3 must be an error. They should all have range 1 I beleive.

Tank destroyers are best used when attacking crippled tanks as mop up.
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PostPosted: Jul Sat 16, 2005 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tyrannical wrote:
That range 3 must be an error. They should all have range 1 I beleive.

Tank destroyers are best used when attacking crippled tanks as mop up.


Agreed on both counts. Cool
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PostPosted: Jul Mon 18, 2005 3:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ill have to look because it was like on mission 4 or 5 when you first get to build units on the resort island. I used them and they were cheap and had great range. I thought since they looked just like the US Avenger's that the US would have them as well but do not
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PostPosted: Jul Mon 18, 2005 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brashin wrote:
Ill have to look because it was like on mission 4 or 5 when you first get to build units on the resort island. I used them and they were cheap and had great range. I thought since they looked just like the US Avenger's that the US would have them as well but do not


Mounted on Humvees? Or mounted on the LAVs?
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PostPosted: Jul Fri 22, 2005 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only use Tank Destroyers in mop-up duty or when funds are low.
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PostPosted: Jul Fri 22, 2005 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arpeegy wrote:
Only use Tank Destroyers in mop-up duty or when funds are low.


Mop up is usually the way to go. I use them in this fashion when I play Russia. Charge in, blast a few holes in the lines and let the Tank Destroyers mop up and take the brunt of the counter-attack while my tanks re-arm and repair.
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PostPosted: Jul Sat 23, 2005 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i like the russia's tank destroyer because they use the same guns as T80U, T90 and T72.

since they are cheap i use them to mop up and risk them to save my rank S units.
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PostPosted: Aug Sun 21, 2005 8:56 pm    Post subject: fav T - Dest Reply with quote

I like the Japanese tank destroyer that Brashin was talking about - i've nicknamed them 'Memphis' units.

I like the range that the Russian Sprut has but it seems that these things do better against infantry than anything else!
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PostPosted: Aug Sun 21, 2005 10:47 pm    Post subject: Re: fav T - Dest Reply with quote

irashunal wrote:
I like the Japanese tank destroyer that Brashin was talking about - i've nicknamed them 'Memphis' units.

I like the range that the Russian Sprut has but it seems that these things do better against infantry than anything else!


I like the Spruts. Maybe it's just me, but they are one of the better TDs in the game.
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PostPosted: Aug Mon 22, 2005 7:13 am    Post subject: Sprut 235 Reply with quote

I don't know, I'm not all that wild about the Sprut 235. It's firepower is equal to the T-72, it's accuracy is actually a little better but its so brittle and not dramatically faster, plus its fuel is low and it isn't much cheaper than the full on T-72 MBT. For a good, cheap gun tank destroyer, the Chinese Type 89 is good. It's very slow, but fairly accurate, and is the Chinese's only ground weapon with FP 4. And it's only 170 to produce. Good clean-up weapon.
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PostPosted: Aug Mon 22, 2005 8:12 am    Post subject: Re: Sprut 235 Reply with quote

ElricJC wrote:
I don't know, I'm not all that wild about the Sprut 235. It's firepower is equal to the T-72, it's accuracy is actually a little better but its so brittle and not dramatically faster, plus its fuel is low and it isn't much cheaper than the full on T-72 MBT. For a good, cheap gun tank destroyer, the Chinese Type 89 is good. It's very slow, but fairly accurate, and is the Chinese's only ground weapon with FP 4. And it's only 170 to produce. Good clean-up weapon.


Like I said, I use them primarily as mop up or damage sponges for my MBT formations if I'm waiting for reinforcements and the situation looks grim. I usually have them paired with SPHs which can soften up most targets enough for the Spruts to play ballistic projectile tag. Laughing
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PostPosted: Aug Tue 23, 2005 4:18 pm    Post subject: Clean-Up Reply with quote

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Like I said, I use them primarily as mop up or damage sponges for my MBT formations if I'm waiting for reinforcements and the situation looks grim


Oh, I know what you're saying, what I meant was I minus the Spruts all together and use the T-72s like TDs Smile. Although, I can't remember, but is the Sprut any more mobile than the T-72? What's its track type, I can't remember. One advantage the Sprut has is a detection range of 3 as opposed to 2, but I still use the T-72s in most cases for mop up in a fashion similar to yours (SPH + TD).

And there's something fun about using the T-72. It was a lackluster tank, but it's practically the symbol of every tin-pot dictator across the globe since it was such a budget vehicle - at least, as much as any semi-modern tank can be. It's a homely vehicle, but there's something neat about seeing an S class T-72 take out a Leopard 2A6 squadron Very Happy.
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PostPosted: Aug Tue 23, 2005 6:39 pm    Post subject: to tech or not to tech... Reply with quote

Y'know i've often wondered - if it wasn't for American hi-tech in all of our military.. how would we actually stack up against the rest of the world's military? What if we were forced to fight with bare bones equipment like some of these third world countries?

Y'know Saddam's forces rarely even got within range of our people - MLRS wiped out entire football field chunks of terrain per rocket, the A-10's cluster bombed entire caravan's of enemy forces, heli - hellfire rained down from a fly-by roasting faster than they could even cry 'Allah save my ignorant ass'.... All guided by SAT-COM and other wonderful target acquisition toys.

Some of these countries are still working with WWII origin tech - and amongst themselves they fair pretty well on the battlefield. How would we perform if we were thrown back to that kind of equipment?

We evaluate just about everything from the point of view in ABRAMS/NIGHTHAWK/ATACM technology. But anyone that has played this game can testify that a Russian SMERCH can be just as brutal as an MLRS/ATACM strike - and it is much cheaper if it is lost.
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